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Target Shooting by Match - Match Results => OPEN - 10m OFF HAND AIR RIFLE MATCH - Post Results => : riflejunkie February 14, 2009, 12:18:32 AM

: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: riflejunkie February 14, 2009, 12:18:32 AM
Post the scores here.
: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: ronbeaux February 14, 2009, 12:24:25 AM
Old pump up Smith and Wesson. My 853 blew a seal 1/2 way through the match.

Blade sights at 10M with 4 pumps per shot. 22 cal RWS Hobby pellets.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/ronbeaux/BBQ%20stuff/bbq%202/bbq%203/DSC02160.jpg)

: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: gamo2hammerli February 14, 2009, 06:57:50 PM


Used the Gamo Viper this time in -7C temperatures with no wind.



Rifle; Gamo Viper, Pellet; .177 Crosman Premier Hollow Point, Scope; Gamo 3X9-40mm set at 5X magnification, 10 meters off-hand, Temperature; -7C no wind SCORE; 155

: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: neric February 14, 2009, 07:15:31 PM
Well,,,I came up two points shooting the World Famous Russian Match rifle the IZH 61.  
 Pellets:  Crosman wadcutters.
 Sights:  open.  
 Score:  111  (Still in the upper half!)
: Re: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: preez February 15, 2009, 02:35:17 AM
I posted my score in the other thread. Do I need to re-post???

: Re: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: riflejunkie February 15, 2009, 02:47:16 AM
preez - 2/15/2009 10:35 AM

I posted my score in the other thread. Do I need to re-post???

You don't need to re post the pics, but it will make tabulating the scores easier. You know, this match is making me work on my offhand. I'm like anybody else, I get lazy and since my main thing lately has been my prone matches that is where all my work goes. Though it isn't airgun, look for my post in Target General on smallbore prone.
: Re: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: preez February 15, 2009, 03:14:09 AM
OK, my score was 180 (pic in other thread) You're right about working on off-hand. I usually shoot kneeling or sitting with/without support. This is a whole different ball game! I bet it will make shooting from other positions better.

Chris

PS. I'll check out your smallbore thread. I've been looking to get into target rimfire shooting myself
: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: TCups February 15, 2009, 03:33:54 AM
Reposting the (47 + 48 + 48 + 45) = 188 score I shot Friday with the Walther LGR-U, 10-meters, standing, off-hand.  Vogel Green Match 4.50 mm, Gamo 5.5 inch single bull targets at 56 in height.  Sorry, I seem to have posted the score in the wrong thread earlier, Charlotte.  

I have some questions:
What is the official height for 10-meter target placement?  When shooting 3-position, does the height the target is placed at change?  And is 10-meter air rifle 3-position shooting even an official competition category?  What little I have read about 3-position shooting seems to be with .22 cal rim fire.  Is it legal to shoot in competition, standing position, with one shoe off?  Sounds silly, but I prefer to hold the forestock flat on my palm.  I find that my natural point of aim is too low for a 10-meter target at 56 inches height unless I take a very broad stance with my rear foot well back.  I have tried shooting off of my knuckles with hand closed, but I just don't like this -  it dosen't feel comfortable or stable.  So I simply take off my back  shoe and gain about a half inch of elevation, which seems about perfect for a 56 inch target height and my shooting stance.  And finally, is ethanol a strict no-no for competitive shooting?  I am not talking about any large quantities, but it is a well know medical fact that in small quantities, 1-2 oz, it will significantly diminish muscle tremors.  I suspect, therefore, it would be strictly prohibited and tested for in competitive shooting matches.  So by way of full disclosure, I did have a couple of Modelo Negro beers and was missing one shoe when I shot this match.  

: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: Mick February 15, 2009, 04:10:42 AM
Hi Charlotte,
I shot the match 3 times thsi morning with 3 different air rifles ... The first target is with my Logun Axsor, .22 cal  ... the second target is with my Air Arms S.400SL, .177 cal.   Both of these targets were shot fromthe sitting position on my low canvas shooting stool, as I didn't yet feel comfortable shooting from the standing position with rifles that heavy, and using the new "bum-stick".   The Logun weighs in at 8lb 15oz ... the S.400SL comes to a solid 9lb 4oz ... close to match rifle weight.   At the moment my quack has limited me to a 10 lb lift - lol !
The third target I shot my first score from the "bum-stick" using the BSA Ultra Single-Shot, in .177 cal.  It only weighs 7lb 12oz and of course has that short front end - lol.  One interesting item I noted ... nerve spasms from the upper spine, which occurred during the "second match", all pulled roughly one shot in five down to the 4-O'clock direction.

Scores were :
Logun Axsor.22 - 200-14X
AirArms S.400SL - 199-16X
BSA Ultra SS - 188-4X

Mick - The Fuzzy Limey
: Re: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: tjk February 15, 2009, 04:40:58 AM


Greetings fellow AG enthusiasts!! I hope everyone has had a great Valentines weekend,....I know I did,...more on that later!!!!! Any ways, this weekend I thought it only proper to show off my Sweet-Heart Seniorita to everyone in GTA land. For starters,...this rifle and I have a 'love/hate' relationship. Another one of my direct sear triggered rifles,...Uuuggghh, but none the less, way more accurate than the man behind the trigger. Been waiting on Derek's response on the "EZ-Pull" trig assist before I invest in one,...but that surgical tubing would be nice to try out. The trigger grip is slick as owl-$#it,....and I find the best finger position to fire the most accurately is on the inside knuckle. I know this goes against every rule of shooting,...but it works for me. With the heavy pull,...finger tipping causes too much movement, and I've had to adapt for this the best I can. Well without further ado, here is my 10 meter effort for this weekend!!! Happy Shooting to all!!!! tjk



(http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o378/marksman_2008/DSCN1088.jpg)



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(http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o378/marksman_2008/DSCN1081.jpg)



PS The highway stakes designated the 10 meter mark, and the painted linedesignatedthe 10 yard mark. tjk

: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: TCups February 15, 2009, 04:51:48 AM
Hey Ronbeaux:

Do the 5 on 1 sheets of Gamo targets print out with the little black dot in the center of the 10 ring?  Can I draw a black dot in on my targets, too?  That would work even better than the yellow hilighter!
: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: airgunandy February 15, 2009, 05:24:24 AM
OK, here goes.

Rifle: IZH MP512-M in .22 caliber with custom wood stock and BSA 4x32AO scope. I can actually see that there are numbers on the targets now!

Ammo: Daisy Precision Max. Tried RWS Superdomes, but they didn't work as well as the Daisies.

Score: 158. Having issues allowing for wind coming from the right.
: Re: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: Gene_SC February 15, 2009, 05:45:22 AM
Man you guys are gooooooooood..:)
: COME ON DOWN GENE !!!
: Big_Bill February 15, 2009, 05:51:44 AM


Come on Down Gene,



The Shootin's fine buddy !!! Join the FUN!!!

: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: ronbeaux February 15, 2009, 06:23:16 AM
Yes it does print out the black dot.
No you can't draw one on the target, at least not until I get to beat you a couple times.

The ones I printed came out 3/4" for the white area so I just ordered me a 100 of them. Could not find any at Cabelas, Bass Pro, Walmart, or the Local Gun Store.
: TCups re target height & other questions
: ac12basis February 15, 2009, 07:59:18 AM
re ISSF rules
http://www.issf-shooting.org/default.aspx?mode=issf-sports&menu=22&mod=ifpg&pane=10&inst=6
re NRA rules
I can't help w the NRA rules except to say check the NRA web site.

re target height
ISSF regulation target height is 1.4 meters (~55-1/8 inches) +/- 0.05 meters (~2 inches) to center of target from the level of the floor at the firing point.
This is easy to measure if the floor is level from the shooting position to the target.  
Mine isn't, so I have to measure 1.4 meters at the shooting position then use a cheap Home Depot laser level to locate that height at the target.

re 3P
That is an NRA, 4H and maybe CMP match so you need to find/order the NRA sportster rule book.  I had the rule book (for my own info), but of course now that I'm looking for it, I can't find it.  
I've seen photos of shooters in the prone position on tables.  I think this is to raise their position relative to the fixed target height, thus reducing the relative target height, so they are not shooting so up-hill.

re support hand
There are many different ways of supporting the rifle.  
My arm put the rifle too low, so I have to use the knuckles of my upraised fist to raise the rifle.  I have the back of my hand facing the target, and the rifle rests on the 1st 2 knuckles.  And if you do not have a padded glove, it is NOT comfortable.  In fact your knuckles will start to HURT from the weight of the rifle on those 2 knuckles.  Once you develop your stance, with a heavy rifle like your LGR, it should be quite stable.
If you have "The Ways of the Rifle" you will see different shooters holding the rifle in different ways.  Use what-ever work for YOU.

re removing the shoe
Should not be a problem as you are actually "removing" support.

re "drugs"
One general rule is anything that reduced your pulse rate is verboten.
Probably similar for anything that affects the muscles.
On the flip side, best not to drink coffee or coke before shooting either...cafeine will work the opposite way.
: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: Dave1899 February 15, 2009, 08:12:41 AM
This one turned out a little better than the first match. Had to shoot the Supersport/Theoben b/4 someone buy's it (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif)
: Multiple entries okay this week?
: daved February 15, 2009, 08:23:22 AM
I thought the rules last week were one entry per shooter per match, even if you have multiple rifles.  Charlotte, ruling please ;-).

Dave
: Re: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: Truman February 15, 2009, 08:43:39 AM
I posted on another thread, but to keep it all together, I'll pop it here aswell! Looks like I've got my work cut out trying to catch up with you guys! No worries, you give me something to aim for!
: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: riflejunkie February 15, 2009, 09:23:01 AM


I was SOOOO tired from yesterday at the range! I shot 4 targets this morning and quit. I was exhausted. I shot my Daisy 853 with JSB Exact's and shot 49--47--46--45 and was thoroughly glad to have finished. My score is 187.



(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f60/22junkie/Match2.jpg)

: RE: Multiple entries okay this week?
: riflejunkie February 15, 2009, 09:29:34 AM
daved - 2/15/2009  4:23 PM

I thought the rules last week were one entry per shooter per match, even if you have multiple rifles.  Charlotte, ruling please ;-).

Dave

Dave, you are right.  Potentially one person could take 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. so it isn't fair for that reason.
: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: Viper February 15, 2009, 09:29:52 AM


47,45,46,44=182
Gamo Viper Leapers 3-9X40 Set for 10M/3X
5kt cross wind



(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/Silverado1959/Target%20Results%20Feb09/Feb12_2009002.jpg?t=1234736727)

: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: riflejunkie February 15, 2009, 09:44:07 AM
Well there is your problem right there, the metric system!  You'll shoot much better if you convert to fahrenheit.  See how well Mick is doing now that he's put that European metric fad behind him!  Seriously, I'd be shaking so bad I wouldn't even be on paper.

gamo2hammerli - 2/15/2009  2:57 AM



Used the Gamo Viper this time in -7C temperatures with no wind.



Rifle; Gamo Viper,   Pellet; .177 Crosman Premier Hollow Point,  Scope; Gamo 3X9-40mm  set at 5X magnification,  10 meters off-hand,  Temperature;  -7C  no wind      SCORE;  155

: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: ronbeaux February 15, 2009, 09:54:29 AM
Deleted my second post. My bad.
: RE: Multiple entries okay this week?
: Mick February 15, 2009, 10:45:00 AM
Of course ... only my BSA score is anything approaching "valid" for this event ... I jusy had to try the AA S.400SL, my newest riflefor the first time - it's only 1 week old  - lol .   As for the Logun ... welll it's old but I've never shot it at a paper target in competition.

By the way Charlotte, we were still using that archaic inches, feet and yards stuff - NOT Metric - when I left the UK 50-odd years ago - lol.
Mick
: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: MartinDWhite February 15, 2009, 01:10:01 PM
Crosman Custom shop 2400 with LW barrel and Discovery internals running on 2000 psi air, Simmons red dot.

Score of 183 (same as last week) but this time I was using a hammer to drive nails for 4 hours prior to shooting, and shooting in the dark with a flash light on the target (excuses excuses, I can come up with a million as to why I did not improve my score this week). Next week I will get to it before 8:30 at night Sunday night.

(http://www.martinwhite.name/images/February_15_2009/thumb/web/IMG_2014.JPG)
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Martin D. White
: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: Big_Bill February 15, 2009, 01:44:36 PM


Well, another week, another excuse !



I slowed down quiet a bit, but as Tommy has stated, it's hard to put her down, when you know you should !



I believe I need a new battery for my camera, it was on charge all day, but no luck :)



This week I fired my Kirby/Gene/Bill, HW-30 >177 cal.Daisy WC, 46 + 45 + 45 + 45 = 181

: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: pawpawdan February 15, 2009, 03:00:28 PM
Bill that is very respectfull score and only 6 mullicans????lol
: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: Big_Bill February 15, 2009, 03:07:53 PM


Thanks Dan,



I slowed down a lot, and tried to put the gun down when I knew that I was holding tooooo long :)



Still I shot this in less than 15 minutes :) Maybe next week will be even better,,,,or not :(



Eleven years ago, I would have expected to do a lot better on that big of a target. But as they say, time wounds all heals :)

: RE: Offhand #2 Score Sheet
: daved February 15, 2009, 03:25:37 PM
Rifle is my S200 again, Burris Timberline at 4X, RWS R-10 8.2 gr. pellet, indoors, shot a 189-4X.  Thought I shot a 190, but when I checked my math, I found out it's a good thing I checked my math :-(.

Not that I'm counting it, but just for grins, I shot this with my 853 today, and got a 184 with Crosman Premier Match pellets and diopter sights!  That included adjusting my sight half way through.  I also shot the Steroid match with it, but I'll post that where it goes :-).  Later.

Dave