METALMANNMATT////DEM & ANY OTHERS............

[airgun/cuz]

who buy & sell on the interenet,sometimes things happens,such as health issues & other un-fore-seen matters,some personal & some not so personal. I myself have been on both sides of them type of situations,where the delay was all or partly my neglegence,I also know the frustration of waiting based on others neglegence/mis-haps. I just finished refunding a gentleman for a returned product which cost over $600,this gentlemen was nothing short of an understanding person & we are both laughing at the stupidity on my part,the first refund was lost in the mail(probably because I put the wrong zip code) The second refund I sent to him I forgot to sign the check! I don't need to mention who this person is,I'm sure he's laughing if he's reading this, my point is that he waited over five weeks for his refund to finally get to him signed sealed & delivered! He never once doubted me or tried to dilute my reputation within our airgun community & I am still in dispute trying to get my refund from the manufacturer!!   What I am trying to say is it may be better to give someone the benefit of the doubt,especially when there is a possibility of he or she being hospitalized or another crisis which may cause a delay! I think it's better to handle matters off the open forum,especially when others aren't having problems waiting for one of Matts products! Then if there is no truth to the hospital excuse then you need to do what needs to be done,,,  Sometimes patience pays-off!

  JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE PEACE AMONGST US AIRGUNNERS!!!

[Bogey]

Joe,  I agree with you and your comments.  I tried to post earlier on this squabble but for some reason my post has not been posted.  This tift has been aired more or less one sidedly for too long and only hurts the GTA.  The situation is really a personal Business matter between 2 persons.  Maybe my thoughts on the matter will appear later.  I did not even use any cuss words.   Maybe the persons that police this site should step-in and put an end to this and future sniping at each other.

[gamoluver1]

ok dem i understand yes he might have stole it but i highly doubt it 25bux lol so lets not assume so maybe he does have bad luck and this is happening but sir i dont think we should scream bloody murder

[Big_Bill]

Hello Doug,

First this forum is not the place to vent your outrage against any seller.

And your post was moved to the Buyer, Sellers, Traders Comments Forum, where it belongs.

I give everyone the benefit of a doubt, until I know the whole story. I was the healthiest man on earth one minute, and in the hospital 15 minutes latter, I was there for 16 days ! When I returned home, I had several people like you, coming down on me, wanting their payment for items that I "won" on ebay, this payment, that payment and the other payment. Well I don't do business with any of them now, because of the way they acted, and I bad mouth them every chance I get !!!!

Form the way that you are carrying on, I wouldn't want to do business with you, ever ! It just wouldn't be worth it to me.

Now if you want to post anything else, please use the Forum mentioned:

http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=24

Any further posts on the main forums will be sent to the Non Productive Forum.

Bill

[airgun/cuz]

Doug,I gotta say that I'm a bit disappointed by your response! You may not be responsible for others health issues & they may not be of any concern to you,,,that's your decision! The controlling of the time managing & destiny is debatable but based on your philosophy about having all bases covered just in case,I think you should question your bases being covered! Maybe you should have ordered the $25 brake four weeks ago this way you would have been two weeks ahead of Matts mis-haps & you would have had your brake already! Then again if the $25 is not the issue & you keep insisting that he stole your money,why make such a big deal over the no big deal $25 loss & take is as a much more valuable learning experience,,,,  because after all it's only $25.  I have been a GTA member for a fair amount of time &  I would bet that more members then not would agree that I'm an up-front & forward person & would never take advantage of anyone nor would I not give someone the benefit of the doubt in any situation as I have given you regarding this matter. So now that I have given that to you & you continue to act in a very uncharacteristic GTA FAMILY MANNER & That's what we at GTA like to consider ourselves,especially when one of our own becomes a victim of poor health,THE GTA FAMILY PULLS TOGETHER & believe me I have personally been affected by poor health issues within my personal family & not one of the friends that I have made from GTA would never put money before their genuine care & concerns toward myself & my immediate family....ESPECIALLY $25 & I have had one of the worst years of my life in this past year...including loss of family,financial issues due to family health issues & I'll be D********ed if one of our GTA brothers/sisters is having medical issues & I don't feel for them & extend my prayers as I extend them for you also.

[Bogey]

Dem, the issue now is that you have bellyached long enough.  People are tired of you making a personal  and private business matter a public  crusade on your behalf.  If all you ever lose in life is $25 then count yourself lucky.  You are hurting the GTA for your own benefit. Try  private E-mail.

Not trying to make an enemy of you but don't you think others are tired of your personal attacks .  Man up. Be an Adult about this.

I wish it only cost me $25 to determine if someone was worthy of doing business with.  I would gladly pay it.

Unfortunatly, I do not believe you wil put an end to this.   But maybe the people that police this site should.

[Gene_SC]

Doug, please deal directly with metalmanmatt on this issue and do not bring it up again. This is between you and him and we do not condone your behavior here.