Outdoor 3-P match suggestion

[kirby999]

I have another suggestion for once the weather warms up and we can move outside. I would love to see an outdoor competition that mirrors the CMP rimfire sporter matches . We'd have to decide on a target that could be used for say 15 yard standing , also at 30 yards for sitting (or kneeling) and 30 yard prone. You would have 10 minutes to shoot 10 shots slow fire at 15 yards , then maybe 3 minutes per each 5 shots rapid fire (shot twice for a total of 10 shots) then at 30 you would shoot the same , 10 minutes slowfire for both sitting (10 shots) and prone(10 shots ) and then the rapid fire would be in sitting and prone also . A total of 60 shots , Of course a rifle set up for a multishot would help during the rapid fire and we would have to play with the time limit as to allow enough time for those with single shots to get off their 5 shots in rapid fire. this would be an all around shooter competition. What you guys think ? kirby

[daved]

I like it, but it's going to be at least a couple months before it's warm enough here.  In the meantime, we need to think about how to handicap the single shots vs. multishots, and there needs to be some additional consideration given for springers.  Don't even want to think about the contortions needed to shoot a springer "rapid fire" from a prone position :-)!  Sounds like more fun, later.

Dave

[kirby999]

You're right , a springer will give some extra challenges. I found us a target here http://www.glockfaq.com/targets/bullseye/bullseyenumbered_1inch_1.pdf It has a one inch center and doesn't use up a lot of ink to print . Actually if we get to shooting this.I'll print out one and take it to Staples and make 100 copies cheaper than printing them at home. There's a lot of different targets available for download here http://www.glockfaq.com/targets.htm#bull . We'll have to play with this and if the scores are too high we may back it up to 25 and 50 yards . with CMP Rimfire , yo were limited to 6x and couldn't change your scope settings once the match started , but I think a 12X max and allow focusing but NO elevation or windage changes after the match begins. that way you would be forced to know your setup and what kind of holdover would be necessary at 50 yards . a nice mildot scope would come in handy . This would be sporter rifles only , a rig you could take hunting . maybe a 8.5 total weight max. and any safe trigger or maybe a 1 pound max? just throwing stuff out need comments. kirby

[PeakChick]

8.5 lb. max?.........LOL Have you weighed a TX200, B40, or a HW97 with just an average 4-12 or 5-15 scope on it?  Sorry, I coudn't help myself.

[kirby999]

Yes I have . I've own two out of three of the ones mentioned. But a B26 or a HW50 would qualify . I wasn't trying to create a match that would include every rifle that's available. Since I prefer PCP's I would think a multishot PCP sporter would be just the ticket. But as I said before , we would have to play around with the time limits to allow single shot airguns time to get off the required shots in the alloted time. By limiting the weight , hopefully you can eliminate the arms race that usually happens in competitions. Overweight undrlever springers wouldn't be very competitive in a match of this sort anyway . This was just a suggestion to try get folks interested in shooting some type of airgun match . kirby

[riflejunkie]

I like that idea alot.  You know, another idea that has been floating around in my head is an offhand match where you shoot from the other side.  Righty to lefty, but I like your idea better.  
10 yds and 20 yds would be more consistent with the CMP RS match.  And the Gamo target is perfect.

[Truman]

Slow down Charlotte, I'm only just getting to grips shooting righty ! Now you want me to shoot lefty as well! I'll give it a go but I think my target will need to be the size of a barn door or bigger!

(Wow, I've just become a Veteran! Sounds kind of groooovie!!)

[Mick]

Back when I was a young man - before my 80th birthday - as Smallbore Match Director for the Chattanooga Rifle Club, I used to run a winter novelty match, similar in nature to the CMP RS events  but using cartoon animals with a bullseye overprinted on them.   I called it Rimfire Safari !     The 50 yard "DeliberateFire" stages used two of the "animals" per 8-1/2x11 target sheet and the Rapid Fire stages used just one, twice the size.  Then the 25 yard stages used 4 and 2 animals !   Then a final tie-breaking stage used 9 animals per target sheet.   The scoring bull had only four "rings" , using "Low-Edge" scoring of 10, 7, 4, 1 ... with a penalty score of Minus-2 for hits outside the outer ring in the body of the animal.

I also used the 9-animal target for my JROTC cadets ... showed my 'Dragon Logo with Knight' !   any shot that hit "Coach Knight" scored a Minus-10 penalty !

Maybe an adaptation of something like this ... add a little humour to the event ?

Mick - The Fuzzy Limey

[riflejunkie]

Hey Mick you fuzzy dog!!!  How ya doin'?  I like the safari theme.  Imagine me shooting offhand?  Remember?
Charlotte

[Mick]

Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte !      You should know betterthan to indulge in flirtatious small-talk with a Dirty Old Man.   Such pleasantries will have these youngsters all agog and thinking indescribable thoughts.    Just concentrate on your hold and sight picture .... squeeze gently as if it were the first time you ever felt .... Hmmm ... now what was it that Drill Instructor said ???

Mick - The Fuzzy Limey

[Mick]

Just for reference here's a thumbnail of one of the Safari targets ... the Marauding Mouse, a vicious creature that needs exterminating !  This is the "double" style ... also available in "single",  "quad" and "9-bull" formats, sized accordingly on 8-1/2 x 11" card stock.   This particular target I shot yesterday trying out an idea to allow me shoot standing by leaning my butt against a saw-horse - lol.   Othe pics are of the "Deadly Dragon",  the "Crazy Coon",  "BooBoo the Bear", etc, etc.

Scoring, by the way is ...  Centre Bull - 10 ... White Ring = 7 ... Outer Black Ring - 4 .... Body of animal/bird - 1    A miss counts as Minus-1 except on the "Dragon" target where a "miss" that hits "Coach Knight" counts Minus-10  - lol.   In the Smallbore Safari matches we also used "Low-Edge" scoring which really sorts out the "Men from the Boys" !

Mick