Author Topic: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA  (Read 40753 times)

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RE: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #105 on: November 20, 2008, 01:19:38 PM »
It is not "opinions" that divide Americans or any people -- it is core beliefs.  Want to know more about socialism?  You haven't seen anything yet.

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Re: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #106 on: November 20, 2008, 05:25:55 PM »
jesus is that today?

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RE: you guys should watch Michael Moore films
« Reply #107 on: November 20, 2008, 05:34:35 PM »


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blablablablabla And please don't call yourself Christians or Passionate Conservatives (still don't know what that means by the way, I love god but i have no problems voting for the war and killing 200,000 Iraqi civilians)blablablablablabla
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and we are the ignorant ones.  please.






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Re: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #108 on: November 20, 2008, 10:13:53 PM »
Well, actually, as I type, the 5%-6% drop in the markets you see there was yesterday's loss.  But that graph was somewhere around 12,000 a few weeks before the election.  Say, there is some real change.  Let see, for your Obama Voters, that's (12000 - 7500) / 12000 = 0.375 or a 37.5% loss of the material wealth of all of those invested in the companies on the American stock markets.  So let's review.  Taxes on the wealthy are going up, but 95% of you will get a reduction.  And corporate taxes are going up, but all of you small business owners won't be affected (unless you fail to pay to provide health care coverage for your employees).

And a new, progressive monetary process is in place where by the US Gov. appoints an un-elected Treasury Secretary to have the sole discretionary power to spend tax dollars to buy up toxic assets that the American people will eventually get a decent return on sometime in the not too distant future - - -

Oops, no, I guess that was wrong.  The drop-dead emergency that prompted that legislation that MUST BE PASSED BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEK! wasn't quite as big an emergency as our Congress first thought, I guess, because now the money is being used elsewhere, to bail out private industries, especially those with a large union presence.  Have you notices that America's national debt had doubled in less than a year and were just getting started on our spending spree?  C'mon, all of you folks over there in Europe and the rest of the world!  You can like America again now that Obama is going to be President.  Please leave your money invested in our markets.  We love you too!  C'mon, all you greedy rich folks (and likely anyone with any retirement savings), how are your going to be able do your patriotic duty and pay taxs if you don't invest in economic justice?  Send that money back in and let the newly organized US Central Planning Committee do it's job.  Hell, we haven't even started on economic justice yet, much less fixing global warming and built those little electric cars you will all soon buy, so hey, lets have another cup of coffee, let's have another piece of pie!

But not to worry, I am sure that if things do get really bad, our newly elected President and his cabinet (which somehow reminds me a lot of the Clinton Cabinet even though the Lincolnesque Obama is cleverly appointing his political opponents, so they say) won't waste a good crisis.  You can be absolutely sure President Elect Obama has some other really great emergency measures just ready and waiting to put into place, a-la FDR, that will stabilize things for many years to come and will allow the government to take care of all this unpleasantness for us.  And he can act very swiftly and without any of the grid-lock opposition, just as soon as our next Congress is sworn in and those nasty, divisive, partisan Republicans are dealt with by the Democrat's version "final solution".  By the way, did Al Franken get elected yet, or is that good news still to come?  And hey, I wonder why it was that American instituted term limits for the President after FDR croaked?   What were the voter's thinking!  Anyway, don't worry.  Be happy!  Obama is going to take care of us for sure.

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RE: you guys should watch Michael Moore films
« Reply #109 on: November 21, 2008, 06:26:29 AM »
So you like Michael Moore do you? Not surprising, since you think like a complete fool. I don't know how old you are but I"d guess 30-40, what I want to know is how you got so damn dumb in such a short time?I also wonder how loud you will be screaming when your "daddy obama" sends his thugs to pick up your guns! You are not old enough to remember how Hitler took power in Germany but I sure am. Funny how obama reminds me of Hitler!!

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Re: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #110 on: November 21, 2008, 07:09:43 AM »
hmmm...i think that there are bigger issues than our guns...yes, to us they are important, but in the long run, i'm worried about our economy, and our standing in the world...if he pulls us out of iraq, we will have problems in my opinion...bush has kept us free from disaster in terms of an attack for quite a while...i'm not so sure obama couls do the same...and i don't trust his plan to help out our debt...because, lets face it, regardless of your party, i think one thing we can all agree on is politics are not to be trusted, but when he says he's going to cut our taxes, and give money to go to school for kids, and hire teachers(wait...i'm pretty sure he doesn't have the authority to do that...already lying?...oh well...i'm just too young and stupid to understand things, right?), i'm thinking, how could he do this in such a short amount of time?...you can't turn around a nation in a few years...when bush ran for office in 2000, we were already having money issues, even though everyone seems to think that he just can't resist his shopping trips to the mall(obviously, not actually talking about the mall), and he couldn't stop our issues, no matter what he could think of, so i just don't think he can do what he says he could.

but, honestly, ppl, lets just give all of the bashing a rest...what good could possibly come out of debating now?  lets just wait till he swears in, and see what he does, and what promises he breaks first, because like i said, he's a politician...its in his blood to lie(i've only been around for 20 years, and i've been able to see that...i don't get why some of you can't...STOP THINKING THAT HE'S GOING TO BE OUR SAVIOR!)

you guys get each other worked up too much...i think you could better spend your time, like a think you all might have some items that miss you(YOU'RE GUNS!)...lets keep it friendly, guys
Dave

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Re: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #111 on: November 21, 2008, 09:35:27 AM »
I agree with your sentiment and reasoning but not your suggestions. We MUST not sit back and see what this neo-socialist does with our country. We MUST elect strong conservative leadership and we MUST as a people get in touch with our legislators and let them know EXACTLY how we feel.  
 Also, many issues may seem bigger right now than the Second amendment, but when i comes down to it, if the average American Joe in the late 1700's didnt have a firearm, i think we may have had a hard time fighting off the British.  If our guns are taken away how will we take back our country?
 The *_*_*_*_*_* is going to go down in OUR generation. What kind of *_*_*_*_*_*? i cant profess to know. But it will and MUST happen or we will be too far down that slippery slope while our founding fathers look down or us shaking their heads sadly saying "Have we taught them nothing?"   Trust me, now is the time to get ticked off and start "learnin" some of these ingrates (in a nice way of course) because this government is getting top-heavy VERY FAST. Soooo. Im grabbin my guns, and buying as much bullets as i can. I will be loading my own soon, no doubt about that.

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Re: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #112 on: November 21, 2008, 09:38:40 AM »
but what can we do for now?
Dave

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« Reply #113 on: December 01, 2008, 09:49:53 AM »
Well said Bhawanna, he is really from down under(Australia) lives in Calif. some I think and like all liberals he wants the government to take care of him! Well, his daddy obama is going to take care of him alright, except by the time he figures it all out it will be too late! He'll be in the same boat with the rest of us,sad to say! Oh well,maby we can take him "hunting" with us sometime!

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Re: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #114 on: December 01, 2008, 10:47:10 AM »
lol, obama could go hunting with the current vp...outta take care of him...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

(guys, lets start having a good time again, and let this go...or at least get a little more civil with it...k?)

Dave
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Re: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #115 on: December 02, 2008, 01:30:31 PM »


Dave,



There are two things that I have found invaluable in my life.



One being: ALLWAYS BE PREPAIRED !



The Second: The war for freedom will never really be won because the price of our freedom is constant vigilance over ourselves and over our Government. – Eleanor Roosevelt



And when I read here what George had to say, I better understood the danger of those who work for us !



Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. – George Washington





No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. – Mark Twain (1866)





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Re: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #116 on: December 03, 2008, 05:31:10 AM »
Well said Big Bill! I guess you just can't discuss politics and religion without upsetting some people!

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Re: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #117 on: December 03, 2008, 09:55:11 AM »
just saying, guys, that it sounds like these convo's are turning into typed attacks of ones person, which is not really where this forum should be going...why attack ppl themselves?  everyone can have their own opinion...its one thing to dislike obama cuz of how he's gonna run things, but to hate everyone on here that thinks different;y would mean one should assume that you are right about everything in your own mind, and if we never kept an open mind about anything, we wouldn't be as advanced as we are today...i'm very against obama, and everything he stands for, but why not just keep it to a civil debate?  get angry at policies, not ppl here on the forum...we're all friends, here!
Dave

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Re: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #118 on: December 04, 2008, 03:27:39 AM »
Dave, I know you mean well,but when a person tells me I'm not "level headed",that I am a "raciest," I, being an old East Tennessee veteran (Korea) do tind to get a little upset. The man's color doesn't bother me in the least, I have some good black friends. It is his liberal views on everything tha t bothers me. The democrats have made it very clear they want to take ALL our guns from us. I don''t know about you ,but frankly that doesn't set too well with me.

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Re: IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
« Reply #119 on: December 04, 2008, 07:55:01 AM »
i agree...but i think whats worse than him is that we have a majority dem. congress...gonna be an interesting 4 years...
Dave

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