Purchase advice - QB or Springer

[Gopher]

Mike Melick or anyone who has both a QB and B-26,

Mike, I read in your "Good news for QB-78 fans....." post about QB's in .22 being louder than springers.

Does anyone know if a QB 78 or 79 rated 625 - 650 FPS in .177  is louder than a B-26 in .177 with a muzzle brake?

I'd really like to try co2, but I really want quiet more that's why I was thinking QB.

If the QB is  really louder, can someone give me a ball park $$ figure as to what it cost them to get quiet?

I need a 10 - 15 yd quiet occassional  backyard plinker. I have other hunters.

Or maybe can someone recommend a springer around 500 - 600 FPS that's real quiet.

Have I said QUIET enough...

Thanks...Gopher

[ribbonstone]

As much as I like QB's, they do have a bit of noise with them...just the price of co2 unless you add an attachment to the muzzle (or strangle off the co2 for a very slow rifle).

Springer, but I really like the following (which aren't all that cheap).  Have tried all of these, and while they hoover around the 570-625fps mark in .177, are quite quiet as issued.

R7 or HW30...new or used...but $$.
RWS 24...going to have to be used...can find them for  about $125-150...came in .177 or .22.
Slavia 630 or the slightly fancier 631...going to also be used...can find them for $100-$150

[lillysdad621]

I have both the QB 78 in a .22, the Qb79 in .177 and the B26 in a .177 cal. Bottom line is that the quietest is the b26. stock, home tuned it spat crosman premiers at 946 fps, crosman heavies at 780 fps.  It is an excellent hunting rig, and i kept it with open sights. It can hit a 2 inch circle consistenly at 25 yards. Now, the qb79 is the loudest, and is a 640 fps gun with rws hobbies (7.9 gr). But is super accurate. Did a crow with at head shot at 25 yards. In the middle is my qb78. It is quiet enough not to disturb neighbors and was able to do a rabbit with a lower head/ neck shot at 35 yards. I shoot rws hobbies (11.9 gr) out of it at 545 fps and i get consistent 55 shots out of 2 powerlets. The 79 i have it rigged to a 9 oz. co2 tank and i am getting over 500 shots at speeds over 600 fps!!!. But the best backyard plinker is without a doubt the Beeman R7 in either .20 or .177 cal. (680 fps (7.9 gr)on .177, 605 fps (9.80 gr) with the .20). And is the quietest gun you can buy. The target makes more noise than the rifle... but you can buy all three of your choices for the price of an R7...

[SDale]

Ig you get the QB78, then order a Umarex muzzle brake for the RWS/Umarex 850 Air Magnum. When you get it, glue in the end cap and add some tape to it. It'll quiet the QB quite nicely!

I have one on a QB79 with all the power mods done and when fired, it's about as loud as a springer.

[patton123]

Go for the QB and get her tuned from Mike M. Then order a Muzzle break from Rich in Mich and she will be whisper quiet(no need to tape or glue)


My 2 cents

[lillysdad621]

Is it quieter than an R7??? that is acceptable quiet in my neck of the... ehmm... woods? (suburbia like woods...)lol

[lillysdad621]

by the way, Patton... my qb79 would make you proud... Your rifle is the inspiration for mine. I just could not find a 3.5 oz bottle so i fed her a 9 oz.plus the bottle came with unsightly paintball decor... so i got camo wrap and now looks a bit more... acceptable. also i keep going back and forth between a leapers 3-9x32 and a 62 bugbuster... the larger one makes it easier to load pellets... but the shorty, beside being illuminated, gives it that sniper rifle kinda look... what scope do you use on her?

[Bentong]

Gopher - 6/15/2009  9:59 PM  Mike Melick or anyone who has both a QB and B-26,  Mike, I read in your "Good news for QB-78 fans....." post about QB's in .22 being louder than springers.  Does anyone know if a QB 78 or 79 rated 625 - 650 FPS in .177  is louder than a B-26 in .177 with a muzzle brake?  I'd really like to try co2, but I really want quiet more that's why I was thinking QB.  If the QB is  really louder, can someone give me a ball park $$ figure as to what it cost them to get quiet?  I need a 10 - 15 yd quiet occassional  backyard plinker. I have other hunters.   Or maybe can someone recommend a springer around 500 - 600 FPS that's real quiet.  Have I said QUIET enough...   Thanks...Gopher

I have a QB78d that I tuned with the help of this forum and Mike. She's shooting close to 700fps with the temp we have here now (90's). I made my own Q-tip and having been shooting springers for quit sometime..when I shoot my QB I sometimes doubt if the I have co2 on my QB then just hear the pellet hit the target. I have seen post on the TKO brakes for $30-45 and swear on it's purpose. Here's the website http://www.tko22.com/TKO_gallery/

[Gopher]

Thanks eveyone for the advice.
My B-26 and B-25 are both pretty quiet , but at 10 yds, they're  killing all of my traps that's why I need low FPS and still accurate.

I have the feeling that a QB 7X with trim is gonna cost about as much as a used R-7.
So, I think I'm going to have to track down someone who has them and hear it for myself.
I've just started on this hobby, and I've bought 4 springers (3 from MM) in the last few months.
I think Fathers Day might be my last excuse for a while to get one.  

Anybody on Long Island, NY have a quiet QB or R-7 and don't mind giving a demo for me?
Maybe I'll give a stock QB a try. I think they let you try them out at Cobra Air in Sufolk County.

I'll be watchin the classified's for those of you looking to thin out your heard...Thanks again...Gopher

[Bentong]

Jorge >> geewhiz380 is from NY and has couple of QB78d with TKO muzzle brakes

[patton123]

I went with a Tasco/Golden Antler from Optic Planet. This scope was highly recommended from a bunch of guys on the GTA forum. 3x9 w/ AO adjustment w/ rings $40.00-48.00  shipped.

[lillysdad621]

let me know when you want to meet and where. I got both. and am in suffolk county...

[Gopher]

I'll have to try and find geewhiz380. Maybe he's not too far away.

lilysdad621 - that'd be great. It would be nice to put a face to the font. I'm in Nassau near ther Meadow Brook...PM coming.

Pulled a good one! Since I haven't made up my mind yet, I convinced the family to get me a chrono for F-day.

Next purchase still ok'd   :emoticon:

[geewhiz380]

here i am yes i have 2 qbs78.22 and one has a shroud the other has a tko muzzel brake and all u here is a spit and its tuned to do 700 plus and its very accurate im in nyc...any question feel free to pm me cause it clear to see when i log on ,i recomend a tuned qb from mike mileckwith tko muzzel brake anytime and its very stealth..i would help if anyoneu need it no problem here.....jorge nyc....north bronx....

[Gopher]

Lilysdad621 -
It was great meeting you and thank you so much for all your help. My boys were very impressed and overwhelmed by the shear amount of choices at Cobra.
It is people like you and all the other folks I met at the L.I.F.T. competition over the weekend that were so helpful and friendly.
You make this the kind of sport that I want myself and my boys to get into.

So, you all solved my problem...I need a springer AND a QB78 (stock form was very quiet) for the yard...  

I picked up a quiet Avanti 853...QB78 soon...and I still want an IZH 61 just because my son thinks it's cool. (hey, if that's what it takes...)

Everybody thanks again!