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gearsnguns - 1/15/2010 2:46 PMHave you ever seen an older Atlas? They come up on eBay once in a while, they are the real deal, American made a bullet proof. Sears even sold them under the Craftsman name in the 60's. Personally, I'll take a 50 year old "real" lathe over a brand new "bargain" any day.Just my 2 cents.Regards,Steve