Trail Xl numbers fell off

[paul]

Do you have any tear down instructions on this trailsXL,or maybe someone would name a place ,where they could be found,i have a gut feeling ,alot of airgunners will be needing them,  :0

[LongIslandArcher]

Blue loctite turns white when it's cured, so that might be the white stuff you're seeing.

[rocker1]

my end cap is steel not sure about yous , tear down is easy just remember when you put the trigger assemby back in to install it properly

[airiscool]

Nice job making the spanner David.

Steel end cap huh? I wonder how many XL's have those.

Like others have found out, the plastic end cap on mines was really tight. While first trying to get it off, I had to put so much force on the spanner, that just about the time I thought for sure it would damage one, or both of the cap's spanner holes, it finally broke free.  Big sigh of relief !!!

Paul.

[wahoowad]

I believe mine is plastic too. But a hard plastic as it withstood the force needed to break it free.

[StrawHat]

paul - 5/10/2010  5:00 PM

Do you have any tear down instructions on this trailsXL,or maybe someone would name a place ,where they could be found,i have a gut feeling ,alot of airgunners will be needing them,  :0

What he said. I looked in the Liberry and well. Not for the Trail XL.

[airiscool]

paul - 5/10/2010  6:00 PM

Do you have any tear down instructions on this trailsXL,or maybe someone would name a place ,where they could be found,i have a gut feeling ,alot of airgunners will be needing them,  :0

Paul,
The Trail Xl is like tearing down many other springer/gas ram guns that have already been well covered. In fact, the trigger group and anti-bear trap linkage look like they are right out of a Gamo.  Any exceptions unique to the XL, plus where to get the correct seal, have been writen up several times in recent posts here in the Crosman-Benjamin Gate.

Between what's in the Library and using the search feature for "Trail XL", I can't think of anymore info one would need.

Paul.

[rocker1]

after hearing you say yours had a plastic cap i went and put a magnet on mine and it is for sure steel on both my guns.

[rocker1]

i had a terrible time getting those caps off i am sure if they would have been plastic i would have broken them as tight as they were.

[going2fast]

What did you use to take them off?

[airiscool]

going2fast - 5/12/2010  8:17 AM

What did you use to take them off?

The correct tool is a "spanner" type wrench  with two pins sticking out that can mate up to the two holes in the end cap ( I see that Crosman calls it a "tube cover " in the Super Streak parts listing).   If you look at the picture  Rocker1 posted about halfway back in this thread, you'll see the one he used. They are not a standard tool, so you'll have to make one, or improvise.

I clamped the breach in the padded jaws of a bench vise and inserted the tips of two matching Philips screwdrivers who's shanks matched the hole sizes, into the holes in the end cap. I held the screwdriver handles together with one hand,  making sure to push in hard on them so they wouldn't slip out, while I used a steel bar as a lever between the two screwdriver shanks with the other hand.

Paul.

[HNT5]

I wonder if you could use a small strap wrench?

Nathan

[rocker1]

it really isn't hard at all to tear down other than getting that end cap off and that thing is the devil!!! lol it will have a bit of preload but after you screw it out 4 or 5 turns you can screw it out with your hands. there is plenty of people on here that know far more than i do and i am sure they will be there if you have any quiestions.   by they way is your end cap metal or plastic??  thanks  david

[uncle paulie]

For what its worth, those spanner type nuts were a fairly popular item on some cars back in the day, If you don't feel the motivation to gerry-rig one for yourself, you could likely find one of the wrenches at an auto parts store or sears, I know I've seen both new and old ones  at flea markets on occasion. They probably wouldn't cost more than a few dollars. They are still used for some marine applications on boats for flush fitting covers. But you would likely pay twice the price at a boating supply store. Just make sure the pin sizes are the same or slightly smaller than the holes on the piston cap, they make a few different sizes. For the record, the XL I just got has a metal cap.

[airiscool]

I have several differant type/size strap wrenches. I don't see any of them able to grip the small exposed area of the cap with enough force to break it loose.

I just about live in their tool department and tool catologs, Sears doesn't carry any type spanners, either pin, or ring.

Marine suppliers have an adjustable version called a, "deck plate key" but, as mentioned, being "marine" it isn't going to be cheap. The ones listed in Jamestown Distributor's marine catolog are over $20.00 and may not fit 3/16 holes. And they don't look long enough to give the controled leverage that will be needed to break the cap loose the first time.

The strongest and probably the easest is make one like rocker1 did - just to drill two  holes in a peice of steel bar stock and press-in or epoxy two pieces of 3/16 inch steel rod. Then cut the rods to length to make the pins.

I took the even faster way and just reached in the tool box for two Sears Craftsman #1 sized Philips screw drivers. I put the breach in the padded jaws of a bench vise. Then put the ends of the two Philips screw drivers  into the cap holes. Held both screw driver handles together in one hand as I pushed in hard, and with the other hand I used a long, heavy screw driver inbetween the two Philips screw driver's shanks as a lever bar.

Paul.